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Post by Sausage Wacker on Nov 5, 2011 21:55:50 GMT -5
Congrats to you two for making it to the end.
Chris, after Barack left you were the only person that I 100% wanted to work with. We had a lot of things early on and the reason I ousted Lolly was for two reasons. I first had to choose a side and I decided to go with Barack since he was clearly the next target for a lot of people. How was I to know that he would be out the next round? And secondly, I knew you were close with her. With Lolly gone I assumed that you would be closer with me.
HM, kudos to you for playing as both Mel and HM. That must have been tough and I know how hard playing alias can be. In your situation though I find that yes we didn't talk much but you of course knew what kind of player I was. You both played different games and I can honestly say that
My questions are...
Chris, you stated that you felt that you did betray me and since I was 100% in your corner, in my eyes you did betray me. You had a lot of competition wins but you also broke ties. If I wanted to play emotionally, why should my vote go to you? Holly, your game play was different and I know we were all busy at times but trying to get a hold of you was nerve wracking. Percentage wise, how much could you attribute to playing UTR and just being unavailable? Do you truly think you played an "all-star" worthy game?
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Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 6, 2011 7:08:42 GMT -5
Holly, your game play was different and I know we were all busy at times but trying to get a hold of you was nerve wracking. Percentage wise, how much could you attribute to playing UTR and just being unavailable? Do you truly think you played an "all-star" worthy game? [/b][/quote] Sausage, with all due respect, getting ahold of you in this game was about as easy as it was in season 3. I almost NEVER saw you online. Most people can agree I feel that if I received an IM on AIM (since I almost always had my AIM on 24/7 that I would try and respond to most if not all IMs. So if getting ahold of me was nerve wracking, I apologize, but I'm a little confused. Perhaps I can request for you to expound upon an instance you are referring to. I would say that 90% of my game was UTR and about 10% was unavailable. Even if I had things going on in my actual life, I was still checking the board everyday for updates. As I said before, I played 2 VERY strong very hard games, I felt for this game I wanted to try my hand at seeing if I could do as well without the screaming/fighting that took place in seasons 1 and 3. I feel that while I didn't expose my cards or win anywhere near as many competitions as I would have liked, I played a game that evolved, remained flexible and had the right mix of emotional and strategical know how of not only myself, but of my fellow houseguests. In an all-star game, what else are you to do but to try and use your enemies weaknesses against them. I know my weaknesses are that I'm a particularly strong willed and not afraid of confrontation. Had I played the same game as Holly Marie and/or Melanie, it wouldn't have taken much time for people to undo me. For these strategical reasons I feel as though I did play an all-star worthy game.
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Post by Chris Evans on Nov 6, 2011 15:38:56 GMT -5
Congrats to you two for making it to the end.
Chris, after Barack left you were the only person that I 100% wanted to work with. We had a lot of things early on and the reason I ousted Lolly was for two reasons. I first had to choose a side and I decided to go with Barack since he was clearly the next target for a lot of people. How was I to know that he would be out the next round? And secondly, I knew you were close with her. With Lolly gone I assumed that you would be closer with me.
Chris, you stated that you felt that you did betray me and since I was 100% in your corner, in my eyes you did betray me. You had a lot of competition wins but you also broke ties. If I wanted to play emotionally, why should my vote go to you? Thank you Sausage! I'm both happy/sad that you say you would of been 100% loyal to me. Happy in that you were being true to me, and sad in that I didn't believe it. Yeah, I did feel I betrayed you. I think of everyone else in the game, you were the only person I went against without "evidence" of you coming after myself. (James openly admitted he'd be gunning for me should he stay) I based it off suspicion, so for that I do apologize. Emotionally, I understand if you want to hold your elimination against me. I can't change if you're still hurt by it. As for why your vote should emotionally go to me - you said you didn't have much communication or much of a relationship with Holly-Marie. Therefore, like with James, your vote is either for or against me. I compare this to Julie and Chris from Survivor Vanuatu. They were aligned and friends - but Chris was partly responsible for her elimination. Julie was very emotional and her decision on the Jury was to vote for or against her ally. So my only hope is that you can see my reasoning explained in my good-bye message and opening statement as to why I let you go - and understand it. Thanks again Sausage.
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Post by Sausage Wacker on Nov 6, 2011 15:58:53 GMT -5
I never got goodbye messages....
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Post by Chris Evans on Nov 6, 2011 16:42:07 GMT -5
Penn Goodbye message [Sausage]: I started off this week being honest with you. The pms I sent you about sticking together was something I wanted to happen. But truthfully, I didn't believe anything you were saying. Besides that... I still hoped to work with you..but veto didn't go your way. I still don't believe Barack didn't help you to get that HoH advantage and I think you were lying to me. On top of that was Lolly trusted you and probably wanted you around longer than myself. She was loyal to you, unlike James was going to be with me - but you voted her out. I apologize about the way I handled this week. I just knew you were telling Holly-Marie that you two needed to stick together - then you told me the same thing. So basically I figured you were telling people what they wanted to hear and in turn I did the same. When the Barack vs me split happened..I think that's when our trust fell apart. I feel terrible that you left because I nominated you, you are a really nice guy. But game wise it made the most sense. ^That was my goodbye - and the reasons for my doubt.
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Post by Sausage Wacker on Nov 6, 2011 17:58:19 GMT -5
At that point I was telling HM that we needed to stick together. Even though I was merely trying to save myself that round I still would not have gone after you for nominating me. I wasn't dumb and I knew you had your side alliances. I just wanted to make it further so that I could potentially break them up.
Thanks for the goodbye message.
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Post by Lolly Basher on Nov 7, 2011 2:08:25 GMT -5
I never got goodbye messages.... Me either Love the thread title, btw!
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Post by Eve Torres on Nov 7, 2011 2:44:01 GMT -5
I never got goodbye messages.... Me either Or me.
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Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 7, 2011 4:04:07 GMT -5
I PMed my goodbye messages to Sausage and to Lolly. My goodbye message to Eve was more or less what I wrote after I casted my vote to evict. I can post them publicly if necessary.
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Post by Chris Evans on Nov 7, 2011 4:49:52 GMT -5
If any1 didn't get mine but wants them holla @ me
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