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Post by Eve Torres on Nov 5, 2011 13:50:57 GMT -5
Congrats to both of you. I have my feelings and opinions of each of you, which I won't be bringing up here hopefully. So here are just my questions.
HM:
1. Name one jury member who you feel deserves to be sitting in your place and why?
2. You told me yourself you don't think you played a game worthy of a win, has that since changed and do you think you're more deserving than Chris?
Chris:
1. Tell us how you had a harder road than HM did.
2. I know you were having computer issues at the time, but since you were HoH, were you as concerned with winning the Final 4 veto as I was seeing as how we had a final 2 deal?
Good luck!
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Post by Chris Evans on Nov 5, 2011 14:22:01 GMT -5
Thank you Eve! I don't believe Holly-Marie had a hard road at all. Whether it be because she was busy or not, she didn't put a lot of energy..or not nearly as much energy as I did into the game. That's not just an opinion of mine, because she even mentioned in her opening statement that there were a lot of issues that kept her busy and forced her into being UTR.  Because of this, a lot of people looked at her as "inactive" which made her non-threatening. I was playing the game where I made a name for myself, and in doing so, had a much bigger target on my back. Factoring that in, I was nominated less than her in the game. I worked to keep myself off the block. In the final 4, Holly-Marie mentioned that she felt like everyone wanted to take her to the final 2 because she was the "easiest to beat." And when she evicted Sandra, she reasoned that she would lose to both finalists and wanted to go against what she thought was the best. She stated she had no chance against me and I disageed. She believed the Jury would not vote personal, and vote on game alone. Therefore, I got the impression she was not confident in her game sitting next to me. (Because she knows I exerted more energy into the game...hence me having the harder road for working harder) Whereas I was not confident in the Jurors. So in my take, I really can't think of any obstacles she had in her way, as she never put herself "out there" as far as games moves were concerned. I made more risky moves, which I think winners should do, and had to deal with the backlash. No risk no reward. I was, and was very upset I couldn't perform to my normal standards. I was fortunate enough to even compete at all, being at someone else's home during the power outage. I wanted to have a ~ Christmas Eve~ final two. I really wanted you in the final three as I thought you had the best chance of taking me there and vice verse. I also thought I had better odds to win with you sitting next to me, because it seemed like the Jury would favor Sandra first and fore-most. I thought you and I had the most people angry with us. So I really wanted to get that POV to keep you safe and get rid of Sandra, who had just tried to get rid of me the round before. Thanks x2! |
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Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 6, 2011 7:40:37 GMT -5
It's 430 my time and I have yet to go to sleep. So if these answers suck, then yeah. Eve has said she wasn't voting for me anyway, so Whoops!  HM:1. Name one jury member who you feel deserves to be sitting in your place and why? 2. You told me yourself you don't think you played a game worthy of a win, has that since changed and do you think you're more deserving than Chris? 1. God I hate this question. If I had to pick a person, I would probably go with Lolly. I feel like Lolly was nominated around the time that seems to be when Barack was playing his less than reputable moves. Lolly pretty much played the game I would have enjoyed playing had I not been playing UTR. She was smart, she was good at challenges, and I enjoyed talking to her. Even though she blamed me for her eviction when it was someone else feeding her bogus notions that *I* was the reason the vote was going to tie when I hadn't even talked to this person, I know Lolly would have been a tough contender down the road and also a great choice to win the game. 2. That's how I was feeling when I had confirmations from you, Sandra, AND Chris that you all wanted to take me to the final 2. That's what made me start thinking/saying that. Plus, I figured if anyone wasn't sure who they wanted in the end, like myself, It couldn't hurt to keep pushing the notion I felt everyone already had that I'd be an easy win. For me, it's not about deserving it more than Chris, it's about deserving the win. Chris touts a good game about winning competitions and overcoming obstacles. But to me I feel like Chris put those obstacles in his own way. I don't feel that anyone came into this game gunning for Chris, the fact that he betrayed alliances, broke his word to people and didn't know when to lay low are what caused him to be in the hot water he was in. While I went up on the block more often than Chris, He went up round 2 as a result of his "working to keep himself off the block" My first time on the block was in the final 9 when I refused to agree to vote out a friend. I'd like to take this opportunity to say I really don't appreciate Chris trying to utilize real (and in several cases unfortunate) situations going on in my life as fuel to give him the win. I was not forced into being UTR Chris, and I'd appreciate you not spinning my words to make assertions that are not accurate. I was going to play UTR long before anything happened to me. I get that you're trying to use what you can to get votes, but spinning that is pretty messed up. Also, while I agree if I had to lose to someone, I'd like for it to be a friend. Make no mistake Chris, if I TRULY thought I had no shot of winning against you, I would have evicted you. That's why I made the decision to vote out Lolly. It's why I voted to evict Eve. I wanted to get rid of the people I felt were going to get in the way of the point of the game, which is to win. You ALSO said that you had no shot of winning, so I don't understand the attention you're giving me for having said that. Knowing what I know about several members of this jury, I know they would probably respect big moves and nominating strong players, that doesn't mean I'm not "confident in my own game" as you put it. <3  Lastly, Eve I know you have your opinions of me, but Chris wanted a final 2 with you because he couldn't get me to agree to a final 2 with him..... ever. I was wanting to remain flexible for what was good for my game. So if he hasn't told you already, he pretty much told me after Sandra left that he made a final 2 with you simply to have a final 2 with someone. It was a deal I pretty much figured existed since he was about as subtle as a tractor at concealing it Once again, I'm cranky. So if my ramblings are incoherent. Sorry! Thanks Eve. |
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Post by Eve Torres on Nov 6, 2011 9:43:18 GMT -5
So do you think you deserve to win the game over Chris or not? |
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Post by Chris Evans on Nov 6, 2011 14:52:09 GMT -5
But to me I feel like Chris put those obstacles in his own way. I don't feel that anyone came into this game gunning for Chris, the fact that he betrayed alliances, broke his word to people and didn't know when to lay low are what caused him to be in the hot water he was in. While I went up on the block more often than Chris, He went up round 2 as a result of his "working to keep himself off the block" My first time on the block was in the final 9 when I refused to agree to vote out a friend. A lot of your opening was dedicated to apologizing to people. So, evidently, you feel you pissed off some players as well. Secondly, week 2 was VERY early. The guy who won HoH...I had just evicted. I managed to stay off the initial nominations. You didn't get nominated because you knew him. I was nominated week 2 and then in the final 3. That's just as respectable as not being nominated until the final 9. Also, the "obstacles" I put in my way.... are risk moves. Instead of sitting back and sleeping all game I spoke up and made dangerous moves. (Knowing the consequences) Sigh... I feel you were definitely UTR for a lot of the game due to personal matters. That isn't me trying to use that in my favor..I look at is as factual. You are trying to spin it in your favor saying it was your strategic decision to lay low. It might of been..but I feel you didn't have a ton of choice in the matter. So..in your own words "I get that you're trying to use what you can to get votes, but spinning that is pretty messed up." The Jury will obviously have to decide for themselves on what they believe. Because obviously we are both trying to win the game. You are going to say you were planning on being UTR, because it was evident to all that you didn't have enough time. Because the ladder obviously won't come off good. Oh, and Eve knows I needed to make a final 2 with someone. You seemed to be surprised when I told you about the final 2 after she left, asking if I would of took her. IDK what you're revealing there..but yes I agree you're cranky.  |
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Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 7, 2011 3:52:13 GMT -5
So do you think you deserve to win the game over Chris or not? I believe I deserve to win this game, or I wouldn't be fighting so hard for votes. Obviously in asking for votes, I feel that I played a game worth voting for over Chris. I don't know why you ask when you've made it blatantly clear you're not voting for me? Unless to just further Chris' chances to win the game. Chris Pine, I wasn't surprised, I assume days after I told you who eve was (probably around round 2-3) that you guys might eventually make some sort of deal. So............no I wasn't surprised at all. The only thing that took me off guard was the talks of integrity yet you were double dealing. Didn't expect you to be that kind of player, but ZERO shock when you were. |
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Post by Chris Evans on Nov 7, 2011 4:39:04 GMT -5
That doesn't make any sense. Nor is that true - because once I was formed and set with my final two with Eve, I was true to her above everyone else. I gave you that chance. [/shrug
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Post by Eve Torres on Nov 7, 2011 11:19:04 GMT -5
So do you think you deserve to win the game over Chris or not? I believe I deserve to win this game, or I wouldn't be fighting so hard for votes. Obviously in asking for votes, I feel that I played a game worth voting for over Chris. I don't know why you ask when you've made it blatantly clear you're not voting for me? Unless to just further Chris' chances to win the game. In your original answer, you seemed to dance around it: "For me, it's not about deserving it more than Chris, it's about deserving the win." So I asked for clarification. And just because I'm not voting for you to win, I'm still giving you the opportunity to explain some things to the jury, which you could maybe use to your advantage. But in your eyes, Eve always has an ulterior motive, doesn't she? |
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Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 7, 2011 21:50:34 GMT -5
So you were wanting to help me by giving me a chance to tell people (but not including you) why I should win?
*rubs temples* Doctor, my head.
You are right though, I didn't directly answer the question, and I DO appreciate you making me state why I should win. I will say that I was frustrated when I wrote my response to you. Several of my responses last night where in the middle of being peeved and having a few drinks and being up WAY too late on very little sleep the previous day. I shouldn't have given you attitude. I shouldn't have even tried to answer any questions at all. But I wanted to answer what I could (especially from being out of town) and didn't want everyone to have to wait for my responses after I got back. Just walked through the door and have to go do a show, so I don't even have time to proofread this. Sorry if I'm rambling or not making sense.
I really hate that there is this animosity between us right now. Even though I don't have your vote, i hope you and I can talk about this on AIM soon.
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Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 10, 2011 14:48:42 GMT -5
That doesn't make any sense. Nor is that true - because once I was formed and set with my final two with Eve, I was true to her above everyone else. I gave you that chance. [/shrug You're right. Double dealing wasn't the word to use, it just seemed like you still wanted to take me to the end and had made a deal with Eve. |
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Because of this, a lot of people looked at her as "inactive" which made her non-threatening. I was playing the game where I made a name for myself, and in doing so, had a much bigger target on my back. Factoring that in, I was nominated less than her in the game. I worked to keep myself off the block.
