Hai

[Eve Torres]

I'm finding myself agreeing with Lolly's most recent post, except for that in week 1, Orlando wanted to put you up and it didn't stop there, so people were aware that you were actually in the game, unlike HM.

I'm feeling like Chris played the best game to get to the end, especially being viewed as one of the bigger threats of the remaining houseguests. HM has been invisible for much of it, and has said herself she doesn't feel she's played a game worthy of the win. And even though Sandra and I had our differences and weren't the best of friends (we both would have evicted each other last round had we won the PoV), she surpassed my expectations and I respect her as a player.

Tonight's the big showdown to see who we'll have as our final 2. If HM wins, I see her taking Sandra to the end, because she thinks she'll have an easier time, but she'd be so wrong. If Chris wins hoh, I see him taking HM, because he's smart enough to realize that Sandra's got a lot more support in here than HM does. If Sandra wins, I'm not sure what she'd do, but if she makes it to the final 2, it could be difficult to beat her with this jury.

[Kathy Griffin]

Sorry, I passed out for a few rounds there people. I think that James roofied one of my boxes....OOOPS.


but hey....I didn't hate it.

[Eve Torres]

So HM chose to bring Chris to the finals. Sorry to see you here Sandra, I really am.

My mind is already pretty much made up as to who's getting my vote. Chris has been more of a presence in the game, HM has not. As for who's won more competitions, Chris might have a slight edge there. Chris made more moves throughout the game, whether it was making/breaking alliances, or targetting people that he saw as threats, to get himself to the end. Unless she can prove otherwise, HM was pretty well dragged along for the ride by various people, like myself. And I told her if she evicted me, she would likely not receive my vote after I've helped her out "tremendously". And Eve does know how to keep her word.

I'm looking forward to their opening remarks and the questions that we're going to attack them with. LOL.

[Sandra Bullock]

First off, Lindra <3 lol

Where to even begin? I guess I'll start off by saying that nothing that was written here surprised me in terms of your feelings about me. I always felt that the only way I was going to be able to explain my game to everyone was if I made it to the Final 2. I was kinda surprised at the Final 5 everyone was telling me how I would be hard to beat in the end.

I guess the easiest way to respond to everything is addressing each person individually....

James, a good amount of time has past where I can say I'm not mad at you for anything. I think of everyone here though you probably discredit my game more then anyone. Chris and I were close in this game for Day One (something no one seemed to figure out and will read a lot more about when the game is over). I trusted Chris and I guess I will give you credit in saying he would eventually screw me because he did at the Final 5 when he nominated me. However, Eve can attest to the fact that I tried very hard to see him go up and he was my target moving forward.

Kathy, I straight up respected your game probably more then you will ever know (actually you will read it in my journal). I think its really unfortunate Barack's cheating probably sent you home earlier then you should have been.

Lolly, your game was underestimated for sure. You won a lot of competitions and I think had you been online more...would have had a better chance at winning. Reading your constant posts about why Chris deserves to win is kinda sickening though. lol. I dunno it seems like you guys are still talking and he's telling you to talk him up to the Jury so he wins in the end. Guess we know who you're voting though. lol.

Sausage, your eviction in this Jury stage (besides Lindsay) was the hardest. I really was starting to consider going to the Final 3 with you. You leaving was clearly another red flag for Chris having too much power.

Lindsay, <33333 best alliance ever! lol. So sad you left and I love that your crazy ass came back.

Eve, pure dominance! Respected your game a lot more little by little as the weeks went on. I probably would have voted you to win in the end. I truly believed that you had the best shot at winning of all of us in the Final 4. Good game!

Now to clear up somethings. If any of you had read my journal in Season 2 you would have seen that I played the exact same game.

I threw tons of competitions. I was not trying in most of those competitions at all. Why did I need too? I came into this game being disliked by my own season and not knowing many people outside of it. I had to remain low and not show what side I was supporting in the house. Plus I didn't get nominated for the longest time. lol. Why make anyone upset with me?

In terms of deals and loyalties. They certainly fluctuated throughout the game. I started off with Chris very strong. I also had alliances with Mingin moving into Debra and Lindsay. I had small deals with Sausage and James. In the end I thought that Holly Marie and myself were both smart enough to realize bringing each other to the end was our best shot at winning.

Now to the Final 2. I'm just going to talk about them briefly cause I have a lot to say for the Jury Questions/Comments

Chris has won many competitions. I think that's the first thing we all think when we think of Chris. However, this is Big Brother its a social game. Is a social game aligning yourself with almost everyone in the house? Not sure.

Holly Marie has stayed under the radar. I think that's the first thing we all think when we think of Holly Marie. However, these last couples of weeks it has been about Holly Marie. Should she be rewarded for a strong end game where it really counts? Not sure.

Regardless of everything that went on. I had a lot of fun. I really really wanted to win this and you will all will see that when you read my journal. Missing out in the Final 2 is really disappointing, but I think will get a deserving winner in the end. 3rd in an All Star game is nothing to be disappointed over.

[Eve Torres]

I really do love you Sandra.

I did think you and Chris were close, and that was confirmed for me when he wouldn't just put you and Lindsay up together, and why Sausage ended up leaving at final 6. But clearly you wanted Chris to go up on the block when I won my last hoh, as you pushed very very hard for it to happen. Was it a mistake on my part not to trust you and Lindsay? I don't know. But I couldn't take the chance of keeping you both in the game, because (and you disputed this) a super tight alliance of two is deadly when only 4 or 5 people remain.

So did you and HM have an actual agreement to take each other to the final 2? I'm guessing not, since you're here and Chris isn't. But even if you did, she'd probably have been wishy washy with her decision and eventually vote you out. Chris at least seemed to know what he wanted and wasn't afraid of the consequences...definitely a more aggressive style of gameplay, which I can respect.

[Sausage Wacker]

Final 6

I really only have a question for Chris. I know HMs game. It was completely apparent.

[Sandra Bullock]

Nov 4, 2011 14:05:54 GMT -5 Eve Torres said:

I really do love you Sandra.

I did think you and Chris were close, and that was confirmed for me when he wouldn't just put you and Lindsay up together, and why Sausage ended up leaving at final 6. But clearly you wanted Chris to go up on the block when I won my last hoh, as you pushed very very hard for it to happen. Was it a mistake on my part not to trust you and Lindsay? I don't know. But I couldn't take the chance of keeping you both in the game, because (and you disputed this) a super tight alliance of two is deadly when only 4 or 5 people remain.

So did you and HM have an actual agreement to take each other to the final 2? I'm guessing not, since you're here and Chris isn't. But even if you did, she'd probably have been wishy washy with her decision and eventually vote you out. Chris at least seemed to know what he wanted and wasn't afraid of the consequences...definitely a more aggressive style of gameplay, which I can respect.

If you had kept Lindsay and we had voted to evict Chris. I would have taken you to the Final 3 hands down. I would have kept my word on that.

Holly Marie and I had discussed going to the Final 2 together many times. We felt that everyone on the Jury would have us pegged as having done nothing and going under the radar the entire game. I felt that she would bring me to the end. I was kinda surprised she was so wishy washy when it was you and I against each other. I wasn't entirely shocked she took Chris over me because Holly Marie has shown that she is an emotional player.

If she loses this game in a landslide she made the wrong the decision. I have one sharp criticism of her though that I want to mention in the end and see how she responds too. I have one for Chris too! Zing! lol

[Lolly Basher]

Nov 4, 2011 13:14:50 GMT -5 Sandra Bullock said:

Lolly, your game was underestimated for sure. You won a lot of competitions and I think had you been online more...would have had a better chance at winning. Reading your constant posts about why Chris deserves to win is kinda sickening though. lol. I dunno it seems like you guys are still talking and he's telling you to talk him up to the Jury so he wins in the end. Guess we know who you're voting though. lol.

I do really appreciate the compliments, thank you. I also wish I had more time for this game - I was in 3 All-Star games at this time and didn't have time irl for, well, any of them... which definitely hurt me in all of them lol.

As far as the other thing, no, not at all. I don't do anyone's bidding - I just really feel strongly that he played the best game. People constantly viewed him as a threat and either did A) Nothing about it or B) Tried to and failed. I just think that's worthy of a win.

[Lolly Basher]

DRUNK Lolly BACK IN THE BUILDING - but not making a post as embarrassing as last time. I didn't learn my lesson but i'm conscious enough right now to know that's idiotic. Oh... TEQUILLLLLLLAAAAAAA

[Lindsay Lohan]

This is the first thread I saw from my phone, I just moved into my new place and won't have Internet for a while so I probably won't manage to get questions in. I have limited time and my phone Internet is awful. My vote is for Holly Marie.

Oh, and ILY Sandra. Sorry to see you here

[Eve Torres]

Franco, I'm loving your thread. ;D
And Kathy, I love your questions!

[Sausage Wacker]

I thought this was going to be an easy vote for me but after reading all the question threads I just can't seem to decide. Hey Jury? A little help?

I think of this as like a Janelle/Dr. Will final 2

Janelle worked her ass off and won a ton of competitions while making mistakes along the way.
Dr. Will worked UTR throwing HOHs and made minimal enemies and had a smaller presence.

I'm just not sure what to make of it. Both of these players deserve the spot they find themselves in and while I can be bitter and envious at the same time I can honestly say that I'm happy for whoever wins this.

[Lindsay Lohan]

HM seems to have the ball in her court, so you could vote for Chris to make it closer, or HM with what seems to be the majority (to me atleast).

I don't know if that helps you at all though XD

[James Franco]

I was honestly on the fence too... until Kathy reminded me about how Chris treated us as he kicked us out of the game... yes he made big moves, but he spat on me on my way out... I was close to forgiving him for that, but after thinking about it... he lied/voted me out/betrayed me... and what does he do to repay me? Nothing. What should I do for him in return... nothing. Therefore I'm NOT voting for Chris. How many deals can one person break without paying the price... he fucked you over Paulie just like he did me.. and Kathy (and Barack if he had got the chance). HM went along with it... sure, but she didn't have side-deals with us. THAT takes balls... not the other way around. Chris was a little cowardly ass bitch who needed 17 conflicting alliances to make it to the end. HM did it without really screwing many of us over... and at the very least not spitting on us on our way out. Chris was not a class act... he evicted most of us.

[Eve Torres]

But HM did nothing during the game, of course she won't have enemies. That's why it was so difficult for her to choose one in Lolly's question. Also what is the point of mentioning Melanie Brown from season 3 multiple times...is she playing as Mel B or as Holly Marie in this game? She brings up Mel because she played a good game from what I hear, so as not to make her look like a complete nothing.

James, if you guys (you, Sausage, and Chris) actually had a final 3 deal, why did you sacrifice yourself for Barack and Kathy? I know for a fact, Chris did not want you gone until you blew up and started insulting him. So how can you blame the guy for wanting to evict you when you pretty much made him?

And Sausage, HM is just as responsible for you being evicted. She didn't fight for you to stay, because she didn't care enough, she didn't need you because she was just floating by, hiding in the background. If you'd be happy with either of them winning, toss your vote Chris' way.

And LiLo, do you really think Chris and HM in the final 2 is a great representation of this season?
One was invisible for most it, she said herself that she won competitions when she needed to remind people she was still in the game. I'd have rather seen you in the finals, you at least had a presence in the game. And yes I know I evicted you, but if you had made it, I'd have been happy for you. Honestly, I feel like most, if not all, of the jury deserves HM's spot.