James Franco
The Diva & The Villain of Season 4.0
Posts: 190
|
Post by James Franco on Nov 6, 2011 4:30:00 GMT -5
Alrighty then. I've about had it with both of you guys tuting your own horns. HM your performance this season was a complete joke and really a sad thing to see from a person who was the original winner of the series and who also played my arch nemisis Mel - the leader of team borewhores in season 3. So basically I will be voting either for Chris or against Chris. Essentially it comes down to me forgiving Chris or me wanting to see the winner be nobody - an INV borewhore floater inactive. Like you so elloquantly put it last season it's an impossible choice like picking between herpes or genetal warts... both outcomes are equally horrendous.
So Christopher... Where do I even begin with you? You were the epitome of a fair weather friend to me... You played me for a complete fool and now here you are asking for my vote to win the game. From your statements so far you seem to be proud of all your amazing achievements this season but darlin' I'm not impressed. The only difference I see between you and me is that while I was true to my friends and allies to the bitter end, (essentially helping Barack win the veto and taking the fall for him and Kathy because that's how loyal I am), your defining difference is that you sold everyone and anyone down the river to get yourself to the end. For that I think you are a complete coward and you ought to be ashamed of how you played this game. My question: did you even think about this component of the end game/ even care? For such a "brilliant" gamer and strategist I think this is a potentially game-changing oversight. You fucked me over, you fucked Sausage over and you fucked Barack over. I get it. That was your way of getting to the end... but did you even give a single thought to how the hell you'd have the audacity to sit there and ask us to give you the win? You're a straight up bastard man and you played a weak cowardly game in my eyes (despite winning challenges). Congrats on making it to the final two guys.
|
|
|
|
Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 6, 2011 6:58:46 GMT -5
So basically I will be voting either for Chris or against Chris. Lol.....alright hun. Do what makes you feel good <3 Congrats on making it to the final two guys. Thanks! |
|
James Franco
The Diva & The Villain of Season 4.0
Posts: 190
|
Post by James Franco on Nov 6, 2011 12:37:17 GMT -5
Sorry HM but you were so non-existant to me this season I couldn't even think of a single question for you... But I think that says more about you than it does me.  Gl with the rest of the finale trying to convince the other jurors that being a dead corpse being dragged along was a deliberate strategy of yours lol... I think you'll need it darling. |
|
|
|
Post by Chris Evans on Nov 6, 2011 15:24:43 GMT -5
Well, I expected this. Coming into this, I also didn't expect to ask for your vote since I figured it would be 100% against me. In my defense, I didn't sell everyone out. It was just yourself and ultimately Sausage who I feel I betrayed. I had and made a lot of relationships with people, and you wanted to bring me in an alliance with players I didn't want to work with. The one thing I do regret (wishing I handled it better) was Sausage's elimination. As for playing along with the alliance you were hammering into me..I don't think I could of done anything differently. Had I told you I didn't trust them / wanted them out - you could of easily went back to them and told them that. Because like you said, they were your friends. So why wouldn't you warn them? Just like I was friends with Holly-Marie, Lolly, Eve, and Sandra. I wouldn't of sold those people down the river. I wanted to wait as long as possible before I had to make some tough decisions. (Just like you would of had to make if your ideal 5some made F5) I would of liked you and Sausage to have gone as far as those other people - but clearly my relationship with you was over after my nominations. I still initially wanted to keep you safe that week, but you decided to sacrifice yourself for Barack/Kathy. I was thinking of this component of the game. At Final 10, I knew that you wouldn't vote for me had you stayed..but I was okay risking that 1 Jury vote in order to eliminate what I thought were stronger threats to me: Barack & Kathy. But when Barack won veto, the choice was between you and Kathy. At this point I figured whomever left would be a Pre-Juror - so you leaving meant you wouldn't be able to "not vote for me." Thus, eliminating someone who wouldn't vote for me if I reached finals. (Didn't expect Barack to get expelled and replaced  ) Barack is someone I feel would of voted on game - so I wasn't worried about how he left - even if it were at my hands. I also don't think I screwed him over, because he and I didn't have an alliance. Lastly, Sausage. Yeah, I figured I would have 2 votes against me and thought I would need to work on 5. I definitely felt the worst about this one, especially finding out he would of been loyal. But no matter what I did with this HoH...I was pissing off someone. This is the time in the game where I was nervous about people being tempted to eliminate me..so I felt competitions were the only guarantee. Lindsay was threatening to not vote for the person whose HoH evicted her, and if I evicted Sandra/HM/Eve...I'd be stabbing them in the back just like with Sausage. When you win HoH...you piss people off. But someone has to do it. Juries are VERY hard to predict. You don't know if the lot of them will vote emotionally, or if the lot of them respect big and bold plays. I can't change if you think I'm a coward - but I won those HoH's KNOWING that it'd mean I'd have to upset people with my nominations. So I don't think that was cowardly of me. I was just hoping those HoH's would give me the respect to win in the end. If not, at least I tried to do something. Thanks for the question. |
|
|
|
Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 6, 2011 16:29:04 GMT -5
If you feel I was a dead corpse, it's because I didn't fit into any of your plans, so you didn't bother much with me. If you want to hold it against me that I was doing the EXACT same thing to you, that's your business. But you said so yourself in a diary room quote that you were trying to lay low. I was doing the same thing, I just lasted longer doing it. Had you managed to get to the final 2 without your little blowup (the only thing that in my head made you not what I assume you mean by a dead "dead corpse") I would respect the fact that you played a better UTR game than I. However, you DID have your blowup and were consequently evicted the same round. So I guess I COULD have raised some hell a la seasons 1 and 3, but you're the best evidence of why straying away from a laying low strategy wouldn't have worked for me being a player with a history of fighting with other houseguests.
|
|
James Franco
The Diva & The Villain of Season 4.0
Posts: 190
|
Post by James Franco on Nov 6, 2011 19:24:17 GMT -5
If you feel I was a dead corpse, it's because I didn't fit into any of your plans, so you didn't bother much with me. If you want to hold it against me that I was doing the EXACT same thing to you, that's your business. But you said so yourself in a diary room quote that you were trying to lay low. I was doing the same thing, I just lasted longer doing it. Had you managed to get to the final 2 without your little blowup (the only thing that in my head made you not what I assume you mean by a dead "dead corpse") I would respect the fact that you played a better UTR game than I. However, you DID have your blowup and were consequently evicted the same round. So I guess I COULD have raised some hell a la seasons 1 and 3, but you're the best evidence of why straying away from a laying low strategy wouldn't have worked for me being a player with a history of fighting with other houseguests. LOL You are such a dumbass... 1. I didn't ask you to critique MY game... we're here to judge YOUR game... so if this is you trying to win me/my vote over... that failed. 2. The example you're using was me sacrificing myself for my friends.. aka wanting to get evicted by PURPOSEFULLY fighting with the HoH/anyone else who wanted to jump in. Context matters sweetheart... and yet another glorious instance of how absolutely clueless you were this game. Had Chris not been there to tell you what to do.. I doubt you could've made a single move by yourself. I feel so sad for you... 3. p.s. I love that this is the most airtime you've gotten all season LOL .. O.o sorry - honesty hurts my love! My advice for you during the rest of this Finale... stick to your strategy you've had all season and say as little as possible... the more you talk, the more my eyes roll, and the better Chris starts to look. Just sayin' - if you're going to be INV - UTR at least be consistent... nobody likes a last minute bitch And Chris.. it's understandable. I definitely felt blindsided because you never expressed the fact that you were not ok with being in the alliance until you told me who you were nominating.. my question is now, if I had not made the move to fall on my sword for Barack/Kathy and stayed in the game with you and Sausage... would we have honestly been your final 3, and if not, at what point in the game would you have cut us loose? P.s. thanks for being chill with your answers.. they're difficult on purpose to make you guys sweat and see how you react under pressure.. one of you is doing MUCH better at this than the other ATM... hehee |
|
|
|
Post by Chris Evans on Nov 6, 2011 19:57:44 GMT -5
Thanks, but like I said - I felt I needed to play along with you about that alliance or I risked being a target in case you told them. I didn't expect you to throw in the towel by reacting the way you did..I was hoping to eliminate them so I was in a better position with you/Sausage as well as the rest of the cast.
For your question - had you remained calm and accepted my nominations and everything was hunky-dory...I would of stuck by you and Sausage for awhile. However, I would not of gone to final 3 with both of you. For the same reasons I didn't want to go to final 3 with Lindsay & Sandra. (I think it was Lindsay who proposed that to me around final 6) I believed you and Sausage would of took the other to the end just like I believed Sandra/Lindsay would have. Having the two of you around for a long time would of decreased the target off of me. You two would of definitely been targeted as a pairing - but not by my hands. I figured someone else would try and break you two up during the Jury stage, and I'd be able to work with the person who survived the block. (I figure by at least F5 someone would of went after your pairing) Then I'd believe I was the leftover person's closest ally. I really don't think anyone expected me to be in an alliance with you two. Everyone knew you guys were close in season 3, but that I was on the opposite side. So it really was a good alliance for me. With the way things went down with your elimination and soon Barack, I was afraid I damaged my relationship with Sausage. It was always in my mind that we lost some trust.
It is all what-if's, because while we were aligned, I never planned on your eliminations..all I knew is I did not expect it to seriously be the final three if I wanted a chance to win by making it to the end.
|
|
|
|
Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 7, 2011 3:27:09 GMT -5
LMAO. I'm clueless, yet the best you've ever done in 3 times playing this series is 9th place and ONLY because a player was expelled. OK.  Let me go ahead and take advice from you..... because I seriously don't know how to play this game or talk to a jury. *Rolls eyes. Keep calling me names James, shows how mature and respectable oF a player you are. Kiss kiss. 1) I brought up your game because I think it's bull shit for you to lambast my game and accuse me of being a borewhore when you yourself did very little this game.  2) Chris did not tell me a damn thing what to do, The round Orlando left, Chris wanted Orlando to go, how did I vote? For Orlando to stay. The round that Lindsay left, who did Chris put up? Me. Because he knew I would likely vote out Eve to leave the game. The round that I evicted Eve, who did Chris want out? Sandra. So it sounds like if someone doesn't know what the fuck was going on it's you. The only thing I did in this game that Chris asked me to do was take him to the final 2. Get your facts straight. 3) Way to show me how I'm wrong that you weren't worried about me this game as I wasn't worried about you. You offered 0 evidence to the contrary, so I officially don't care about your opinion. Vote for Chris despite me if you want, but context don't mean shit. I said you blew up and it cost you the game. Had you not blown up, you probably would have stayed longer and that's the truth. Why you blew up doesn't mean anything because at the end of the day, YOU BLEW UP AND WERE EVICTED WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT i SAID. There's not ifs ands or buts to it. I didn't say you blew up because you were irrational (even though it's more or less true) so I'm pretty sure nothing I've said is not accurate. If you don't have anything to say that can challenge anything I've said as valid other than name calling like some emotionally deprived 9 year old, then I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU GETTING OFF BY talking out of the unfortunately placed asshole between your nose and chin. You're obviously upset about something else going on in your life and take it out on people online (that you don't even know) in order to feel better about yourself. Let me know how that's working out for you. I'm sure you're a very emotional stable and forthright human being. I'm not wanting to be a bitch, but if you're going to openly insult me and be a collausal hypocrite, then yeah. I'm going to disagree with you. Which in two games with you and seeing your reaction is something you obviosly can't handle. Let me know how puberty goes if/when you ever hit it. *dueces* |
|
|
|
Post by Chris Evans on Nov 7, 2011 4:40:50 GMT -5
2) Chris did not tell me a damn thing what to do, The round Orlando left, Chris wanted Orlando to go, how did I vote? For Orlando to stay. The round that Lindsay left, who did Chris put up? Me. Because he knew I would likely vote out Eve to leave the game. The round that I evicted Eve, who did Chris want out? Sandra. So it sounds like if someone doesn't know what the fuck was going on it's you. The only thing I did in this game that Chris asked me to do was take him to the final 2. Get your facts straight. Speaking of getting facts straight...I never nominated you at Final 6. |
|
James Franco
The Diva & The Villain of Season 4.0
Posts: 190
|
Post by James Franco on Nov 7, 2011 11:25:12 GMT -5
 :cringes: woww you are such a crazy person. I love your game play this season. First you're INVS/INACTIVE all season long and then in the finale you berate the jury. Let's see how that all works out for ya dearie. lololol. I'm <3ing how you're coming unhinged. It's sad for you.. but fun for me to watch (ala a train-wreck). You really should've taken my advice and said as little as possible.. o well. |
|
James Franco
The Diva & The Villain of Season 4.0
Posts: 190
|
Post by James Franco on Nov 7, 2011 11:31:34 GMT -5
p.s. how the hell did you win one of these? lol unbelievable. I guess you think you're doing so well with the other jurors (  ) that you don't think you need my vote? lolol your epic fail in this finale is so hilarious ;D But don't stop now on my behalf, please continue to dig yourself into an even bigger hole! |
|
|
|
Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 7, 2011 13:41:20 GMT -5
Speaking of getting facts straight...I never nominated you at Final 6. Typo, final 4. Thanks. |
|
|
|
Post by Holly Marie Combs on Nov 7, 2011 13:48:08 GMT -5
p.s. how the hell did you win one of these? lol unbelievable. I guess you think you're doing so well with the other jurors ( ) that you don't think you need my vote? lolol your epic fail in this finale is so hilarious ;D But don't stop now on my behalf, please continue to dig yourself into an even bigger hole! How did I win? It's something called gameplay. Umm....Not crazy, but not going to take any guff from you. You call me a borewhore, a dumbass and a bitch and you have the nerve to be surprised when I fire back? *rolls eyes* I have a lot of respect for the people in this game, many of whom did not even make the jury portion. I'm not berating the jury as a whole. HOWEVER, I'm not going to be made to feel bad about the way I played this game (esspecially someone who played a similarly utr strategy. I'm not going to roll over and say "hand Chris the win," and I'm certainly not going to take any shit from you. If doing so is what it takes to get your vote, I'd rather try and fight for 4 of the other 5 votes I know aren't already going to Chris. I'm not stupid in knowing Chris stands an infinitely better chance at winning than I, but that's how the cookie crumbles. Lastly, I know I played a good game and don't need any validation from you. So unless you need any more information as far as who to vote for. We don't need to continue this discussion. <3 |
|
James Franco
The Diva & The Villain of Season 4.0
Posts: 190
|
Post by James Franco on Nov 7, 2011 13:56:17 GMT -5
well after this ridiculous thread.. I'm in the forgiving kind of mood. congrats to chris for getting my vote. you can thank HM for that. |
|
James Franco
The Diva & The Villain of Season 4.0
Posts: 190
|
Post by James Franco on Nov 9, 2011 21:00:58 GMT -5
After sleeping it off... and HM calming the f-down and apologizing to me on AIM when she wasn't being an angry drunk... I take back what I said earlier. Chris is actually a terrible human being... and I would vote for Satan over him. Changing my vote... this time it's final. FU CHRIS That's what you get for being a little backstabbing bitch.  -Franco OUT |
|
Gl with the rest of the finale trying to convince the other jurors that being a dead corpse being dragged along was a deliberate strategy of yours lol... I think you'll need it darling.
)
Let me go ahead and take advice from you..... because I seriously don't know how to play this game or talk to a jury. *Rolls eyes. Keep calling me names James, shows how mature and respectable oF a player you are. Kiss kiss. 
) that you don't think you need my vote? lolol your epic fail in this finale is so hilarious ;D But don't stop now on my behalf, please continue to dig yourself into an even bigger hole!
-Franco OUT